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Inconsistent
Posted: 16th Jun, '13, 13:51
by Tas
You can't in seriousness defend all those constitution about freedom, right to bear arms, deny legislation regarding gun ownership background checks, allow marketing and sale of guns designed for children, give gun lobbyists their high platform, then turn around and deny a kid wearing then arrest him for wearing an NRA support Tshirt. That's the social structure the kids are being bought up in, can't then turn around and condemn the inevitible. Twisted.
http://au.businessinsider.com/8th-grade ... irt-2013-6
Re: Inconsistent
Posted: 16th Jun, '13, 16:33
by Fat Bob
The more I look at America the more totally fucked up it seems to be. I get some good stories from This Is True newsletter.
Re: Inconsistent
Posted: 16th Jun, '13, 16:51
by Lili Von Shtupp
It's a school for crying out loud! Shouldn't they be burning books?
Re: Inconsistent
Posted: 17th Jun, '13, 02:26
by avatarless
Lili Von Shtupp wrote:It's a school for crying out loud! Shouldn't they be burning books?
Very good point.
Re: Inconsistent
Posted: 17th Jun, '13, 05:38
by Tas
Wasn't the last one little red riding hood?
Re: Inconsistent
Posted: 17th Jun, '13, 11:50
by T2K
Tas - Yes, it's fucked up. To a certain type of people in the US, "guns" are synonomous with murder. They cannot separate the human acts/decisions with one tool commonly used.
So, a kid wearing a Smith & Wesson shirt to school is viewed as inciting people to violence. A Porsche shirt is not, not yet anyway, seen as an incitement to dangerous and illegal driving. That may come, in time.
FB - You're not wrong. It will have to get worse before the steps needed to fix the USA can happen. It should be an interesting ride. At the same time, please note that the vast majority of the US is perfectly normal, low-crime, people going to work and doing normal things. The extremes are very well-reported, though, and can give a false overall impression.
Re: Inconsistent
Posted: 17th Jun, '13, 18:59
by Fat Bob
To counter your first paragraph, there are certain types in the US who think "lack of guns" is a crime against humanity. Extreme to extreme.
However, yes, I agree that you tend only to see the polarised view and not the standard fare. I felt very happy and safe during my trip in February. And there were bears in them mountains!
Re: Inconsistent
Posted: 17th Jun, '13, 22:17
by T2K
Lack of guns is a "crime against humanity"...? Hmmm, not sure about that one, seems a bit of stretch. I'm familiar with lots of nutjob viewpoints from all sides in the US and I've never heard that one. Overly harsh restrictions on any of the civil liberties guaranteed in the Constitution is a crime against liberty in the US context, that is a common (and correct) viewpoint and about as far as I would go on the matter.